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	<title>Comments on: Finding out the hard way that linking to infringing content is illegal</title>
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		<title>By: Earl Blumenauer</title>
		<link>http://www.sebastienpage.com/2008/08/21/finding-out-the-hard-way-that-linking-to-infringing-content-is-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-31965</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl Blumenauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Whit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Piracy will always be around, and I am sure most Americans have engaged in some form of Piracy.  There are laws upon laws that protect content from being illegaly viewed or obtained, but the reality is that the easier it is to pirate things, the more people aren&#039;t afraid to do it.
By linking the software on the web page, no real laws should have been broken.  You have presented a person with a choice.  You can stand outside of a music store and tell a passer-by that he can grab some cd&#039;s without the manager knowing because the manager is usually asleep.  You have made obvious the ability to commit a crime and get away with it, but the passer-by is the one who will choose to commit or not commit the crime.  If there is no profit in linking the software, then how can one be held responsible for giving someone a choice?  You may not be a squeaky-clean, honest person, but you aren&#039;t commiting a crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piracy will always be around, and I am sure most Americans have engaged in some form of Piracy.  There are laws upon laws that protect content from being illegaly viewed or obtained, but the reality is that the easier it is to pirate things, the more people aren&#8217;t afraid to do it.<br />
By linking the software on the web page, no real laws should have been broken.  You have presented a person with a choice.  You can stand outside of a music store and tell a passer-by that he can grab some cd&#8217;s without the manager knowing because the manager is usually asleep.  You have made obvious the ability to commit a crime and get away with it, but the passer-by is the one who will choose to commit or not commit the crime.  If there is no profit in linking the software, then how can one be held responsible for giving someone a choice?  You may not be a squeaky-clean, honest person, but you aren&#8217;t commiting a crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Charly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually.. you would have won the case :)
Linking to &quot;illegal&quot; content has been an issue here in the Netherlands for quiet some time as well. 
It indeed is a vage area, but bottomline is the fact that you only point to software that is available on the net, just like Google is doing. Since all the software links you might have can also be found by google.
The few websites that have gone to court regarding this have won the case in front of a judge.
Problem is that it is getting harder these days. Can you imagine that the Dutch government is considering to put taxes on youtube?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually.. you would have won the case :)<br />
Linking to &#8220;illegal&#8221; content has been an issue here in the Netherlands for quiet some time as well.<br />
It indeed is a vage area, but bottomline is the fact that you only point to software that is available on the net, just like Google is doing. Since all the software links you might have can also be found by google.<br />
The few websites that have gone to court regarding this have won the case in front of a judge.<br />
Problem is that it is getting harder these days. Can you imagine that the Dutch government is considering to put taxes on youtube?</p>
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		<title>By: Thank You Apple inc.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thank You Apple inc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My message is that Apple inc. should tighten thier belts, and put more anti-jailbreakin&#039; security on thier devices.

&quot;Hackers will never stop because most enjoy what they do, or get big bucks $$$&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My message is that Apple inc. should tighten thier belts, and put more anti-jailbreakin&#8217; security on thier devices.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hackers will never stop because most enjoy what they do, or get big bucks $$$&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bleh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bleh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what Apple did. Look at it this way. If you know somebody who robbed a bank and they are sitting at home with all that  cash and you tell a friend their address. Are you not just as guilty? You aided a criminal. It may seem small and insufficent but in reality it is a huge thing. Sure a dollar or two here and there isnt much, but add it up in the long run with oer 1,600 people downloading it each day.... Thats quite a load of money they are losing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what Apple did. Look at it this way. If you know somebody who robbed a bank and they are sitting at home with all that  cash and you tell a friend their address. Are you not just as guilty? You aided a criminal. It may seem small and insufficent but in reality it is a huge thing. Sure a dollar or two here and there isnt much, but add it up in the long run with oer 1,600 people downloading it each day&#8230;. Thats quite a load of money they are losing.</p>
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		<title>By: Thank you Apple inc.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thank you Apple inc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If apple cared about people hacking their products, maybe they would tighten up their firmware security, and eliminate their DFU mode.

Sony PSP is one of the hardest portable devices to hack, at first firmware exploits were used to hack it but it was not long before Sony had this fixed up, and it became impossible to use exploits. Instead hackers used Sony&#039;s form of DFU mode (Recovery mode), only this was not simple to preform as you either need a hacked PSP to make a pandora battery, or to buy one off the internet.
Then along came the PSP-3000, i do not know if this is hackable yet, but it probably isn&#039;t.:(

So basically, Sony&#039;s way of unbricking keeps more people away from hacking their device.

But in my opinion apple rules because of their low security, Sony sucks because of their tight security.

So, thank you Apple inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If apple cared about people hacking their products, maybe they would tighten up their firmware security, and eliminate their DFU mode.</p>
<p>Sony PSP is one of the hardest portable devices to hack, at first firmware exploits were used to hack it but it was not long before Sony had this fixed up, and it became impossible to use exploits. Instead hackers used Sony&#8217;s form of DFU mode (Recovery mode), only this was not simple to preform as you either need a hacked PSP to make a pandora battery, or to buy one off the internet.<br />
Then along came the PSP-3000, i do not know if this is hackable yet, but it probably isn&#8217;t.:(</p>
<p>So basically, Sony&#8217;s way of unbricking keeps more people away from hacking their device.</p>
<p>But in my opinion apple rules because of their low security, Sony sucks because of their tight security.</p>
<p>So, thank you Apple inc.</p>
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		<title>By: iphone developer</title>
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		<dc:creator>iphone developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SIrs: I am an iPhone developer with 2 apps in the iTunes store. My apps have been a critical success, but not a financial success...at least  not enough to cover development costs to this point (Since April 09).

My apps were cracked within days, and I was powerless to do anything about it. Since the crackers proudly keep hit counters on the downloads, I know I&#039;ve lost over $24,000 USD in lost revenue. This would have covered development costs, and made me a profit to be happy about, but instead I am in the red so far.

So what I am trying to say, is this is a real problem: By supporting stolen stuff, in the end we will only have the free stuff that the biggest global corporations issue for. The inventive little guy is totally washed out. And... you will get to live in a world of advertisements and spyware. You need to understand that people like me will simply walk away. Burned by a wild-wild west global internet mentality, and Apple&#039;s non-existent support to developers on this issue. {So far they haven&#039;t made one API available to developers to use to prevent piracy.}

So my message is that piracy chases away the inventive people. You can&#039;t shit on someone&#039;s parade every day, and expect them to hang around forever.

I know you&#039;re thinking that all the iPhone developers are all millionaires, right? so why not position yourself to download free stuff?  Wrong, that was in the first few months of apps, and is simply not the case. 

When I read some of the whining in this forum and eslewhere on the internet, I simply ask you to go to Starbucks and order a Tall coffee for about $1.80 . After they give it to you, turn around, and walk out without paying....OK?.... No you wouldn&#039;t do that because someone would yell at you right?? You wouldn&#039;t want to look like a petty thief, right?  Well on the internet, when nobody can yell at you, and you can hide behind your IP-veil, you know you can continue to manage your public image of being an honest person........ Me a petty thief?    Moi?  Yes, you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SIrs: I am an iPhone developer with 2 apps in the iTunes store. My apps have been a critical success, but not a financial success&#8230;at least  not enough to cover development costs to this point (Since April 09).</p>
<p>My apps were cracked within days, and I was powerless to do anything about it. Since the crackers proudly keep hit counters on the downloads, I know I&#8217;ve lost over $24,000 USD in lost revenue. This would have covered development costs, and made me a profit to be happy about, but instead I am in the red so far.</p>
<p>So what I am trying to say, is this is a real problem: By supporting stolen stuff, in the end we will only have the free stuff that the biggest global corporations issue for. The inventive little guy is totally washed out. And&#8230; you will get to live in a world of advertisements and spyware. You need to understand that people like me will simply walk away. Burned by a wild-wild west global internet mentality, and Apple&#8217;s non-existent support to developers on this issue. {So far they haven&#8217;t made one API available to developers to use to prevent piracy.}</p>
<p>So my message is that piracy chases away the inventive people. You can&#8217;t shit on someone&#8217;s parade every day, and expect them to hang around forever.</p>
<p>I know you&#8217;re thinking that all the iPhone developers are all millionaires, right? so why not position yourself to download free stuff?  Wrong, that was in the first few months of apps, and is simply not the case. </p>
<p>When I read some of the whining in this forum and eslewhere on the internet, I simply ask you to go to Starbucks and order a Tall coffee for about $1.80 . After they give it to you, turn around, and walk out without paying&#8230;.OK?&#8230;. No you wouldn&#8217;t do that because someone would yell at you right?? You wouldn&#8217;t want to look like a petty thief, right?  Well on the internet, when nobody can yell at you, and you can hide behind your IP-veil, you know you can continue to manage your public image of being an honest person&#8230;&#8230;.. Me a petty thief?    Moi?  Yes, you!</p>
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		<title>By: Apple Reminds Us That jailbreaking Is Illegal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apple Reminds Us That jailbreaking Is Illegal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] having my share of troubles with Apple&#8217;s lawyers and during a phone meeting with their top copyright lawyer, he actually informed me that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Croboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Croboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pissed now. I am from Croatia, and our law justice is so fucked up and your (US) laws doesn&#039;t mean anything here, so I will open blog with full content and EVERY possible cracked file for iPhone, and I will notify them with mail where they can see my cracked files and I will dare them to sue me.

They can scare only US citizens, but us they can not sue, because here, our law it is not jet fixed about cracked files.

So, let them sue me! They will wait around 10 years to be solved, but here in Croatia, after 3 years, everything goes to trash.

It is true, so I am immediately going to open site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pissed now. I am from Croatia, and our law justice is so fucked up and your (US) laws doesn&#8217;t mean anything here, so I will open blog with full content and EVERY possible cracked file for iPhone, and I will notify them with mail where they can see my cracked files and I will dare them to sue me.</p>
<p>They can scare only US citizens, but us they can not sue, because here, our law it is not jet fixed about cracked files.</p>
<p>So, let them sue me! They will wait around 10 years to be solved, but here in Croatia, after 3 years, everything goes to trash.</p>
<p>It is true, so I am immediately going to open site!</p>
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		<title>By: Croboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Croboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pissed now. I am from Croatia, and our law justice is so fucked up and your (US) laws doesn&#039;t mean anything here, so I will open blog with full content and EVERY possible cracked file for iPhone, and I will notify them with mail where they can see my cracked files and I will dare them to sue me.

They can scare only US citizens, but us they can not sue, because here, our law it is not jet fixed about cracked files.

So, let them sue me! They will wait around 10 years to be solved, but here in Croatia, after 3 years, everything goes to trash.

It is true, so I am immediately going to open site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pissed now. I am from Croatia, and our law justice is so fucked up and your (US) laws doesn&#8217;t mean anything here, so I will open blog with full content and EVERY possible cracked file for iPhone, and I will notify them with mail where they can see my cracked files and I will dare them to sue me.</p>
<p>They can scare only US citizens, but us they can not sue, because here, our law it is not jet fixed about cracked files.</p>
<p>So, let them sue me! They will wait around 10 years to be solved, but here in Croatia, after 3 years, everything goes to trash.</p>
<p>It is true, so I am immediately going to open site!</p>
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